one year ago when we conceived the idea of knit a spell as a podcast the amount of knowledge i knew about podcasting was none luckily my brother is a professional podcaster his name is greg rempe and he's the host of the barbecue central show and he's exactly the reason why we look and sound so good so who belts better to have on one of our anniversary episodes than the man who helped make this all happen greg rempe light from lantern presents knit a spell i'm magical maker katie rempe and i'm the maker of magic james devine join us as we stitch together the symbiotic relationship between crafting and the craft i'm glad you got my last name right people hardly ever do that thank you it's very similar to mine so i felt like if if i don't get it right who could how do people mispronounce it why don't they put k's in it what they leave the e enunciation off and called
to be a nickname in high school but that's just fun but otherwise like a new person reading my name it's either getting a k ramp key i don't know why or it's ramp or ramble or you name it but it seems it appears visually easy but orally it's very hard well i'm thrilled to have you here greg your feedback and your help and support with our podcast has been invaluable you know when someone can give you uh critical feedback and then it helps you and moves you along you know i feel like that's like the greatest form of love and i have learned so much by listening to your podcast jim i really appreciate your kind words and if i could i also have a big thank you to jim in regards to peaking my interest in crafting of all things believe it or not specifically knitting so this past week what i went to joanne fabrics and you know what i bought i bought a big ass skank of yarn sliced that skank up i hooked that skank i pearled that skank no one has ever put it to a stank like i did last weekend and i have jim to thank for all of that skankness so you're my new bestie for the rest i really appreciate it oh my god you really skanked it up this weekend i'm really proud of all the great episodes that i've listened to from knit a spell that one is seared pun intended into my brain it was excellent yes indeed indeed some of your finer work so greg you have been in the podcasting biz for a hot minute uh in fact so long that i don't think it was called podcasting when you originally started i just remember it being as part of a quote internet radio show and having to try to explain that to people and no no it's not on the terrestrial radio like you don't listen in your car yet it's on your computer you listen on your computer people were like what so that was like 2006 when i started so it's been a while as you mentioned and there weren't a lot of people doing it it was actually called podcasting back then i think uh adam curry from mtv might be credited with having the very first podcast ever um i know katie doesn't remember who that is but jim you might remember who adam curry is so for sure that's where it all started so when i got into barbecue i was learning quite a bit from an online resource called the virtualweberbullet.com which was specifically made for the cooker that i had and i didn't know how to use it so i was gaining all this great knowledge i was also learning how to have relationships now online with a bunch of other people that had common interests and then i was asking so many questions that the moderator of the forums that hey you're asking too many questions and i said i don't even know what that means so i started my own forum um all the way so this was probably more 2004 and it ended up growing into one of the more heavily trafficked barbecue and grilling forums at the time that was the real cool technology back then was being able to go somewhere and post a question and get somebody to answer your back and then there was an onslaught of forums so to separate i had heard about this podcasting i decided to get into it but it was really more of me interviewing members of my forum and talking about what their favorite parts of that were and what do they cook on and it was very forum based and then there was so this was 2006 to around 2008 that i was doing that and then in 2008 there seemed to be a real big run on people doing barbecue podcasts so to re-separate again i wanted to do a live show i found a guy through craigslist online in la who was opening an internet radio station that katie had referenced and i reached out and said hey i've been doing a barbecue podcast for two years and i think i could do once a week a show for about an hour and i had to do some pretty hard convincing because he thought i would be running out of things to talk about after two weeks he gave me a shot we figured out the technology on how he could connect from la into me in cleveland and then redistributed over his audio servers and that's how the show went for any number of years and eventually we separated i added a second hour and i've progressed in sound and tech and all that other stuff there but that's really the genesis of the show so the live show started in 2008 and uh just this past february we celebrated the entrance into our 14th year of live shows wow oh my gosh i just remember years i remember listening in college and like calling in it's been really amazing to watch and super inspiring because you went after all these opportunities people didn't come knocking at your door you approached this guy and were any of his other shows people who were remote no everybody else lived in la and went to a studio see there you go forging the way ever ever more and you didn't start with video with your podcast right that was added later yeah it was all an audio show that's all i ever wanted and then through getting some emails from listeners saying oh you should add a camera and i said well it's gonna look like a guy talking into a microphone but they kept coming in so i added a camera and much like the show originally started sounded like crap i was crap there was a lot of crap when we added video looked like crap and it took a while to get it to where it looks like today where it's kind of a video production as well but if i had to give one or the other up i would give video up in a second audio is the way the show was born it's what i love when i watch my show back there's plenty of times i hate everything about it and then i'll listen to the show the same show i'll listen to it in my car driving to work and i love it because it's theater of the mind i can think about how my face looks or what my guest is saying and what his reaction is like i don't have to actually see it being chronicled in front of me on video i can just use my mind to do that and it's much more fun and entertaining for me and i always tell people thank you for watching i would rather you just listen it's much better that way yeah greg i want to go back to something that you said which is at the beginning it sounded like crap it was crappy the content was crap contour is crap yes and you stuck with it and there's something that is very similar well the same really with any craft that we do what do you say to people who kind of burn out or stop doing something or give up what kept you in it i think i got into it with not a lot of other competition or shows to gauge how much i sucked was nobody doing it in the live fire space that's not true there was one other guy who probably should be in the barbecue hall of fame with how successful his forum was and he was the first barbecue person i heard do a podcast and it's funny that you mentioned this jim now that i'm thinking about it he was my inspiration to go that guy really sucks ass there's no way i can be as bad as him so i'm going to go ahead and try a barbecue podcast i knew i would be better than that guy right off the bat however the other side of it is ignorance is bliss i can look back now 14 years later to the first podcast i did which was done through some weirdo phone conferencing so everybody sounded like they were on a phone because everybody was on a phone and now i have microphones and voice processors and all this other stuff to make me sound professional but when i was doing them then i didn't know i was that bad it took me a year later or three years later or 10 years later to go back and listen to those old shows and go wow i really sucked bad back then but i didn't know any better and nobody was there to say hey you suck stop doing that they do it now because i have a much bigger following and people want to bust balls back then nobody could tell me i sucked because nobody knew if it sucked that's right and everybody's sucked at that same level yeah it's just so much easier now like youtube wasn't as big of a thing back then as it is now you can go on youtube or google now and say how do i start a podcast and it's all laid out for you i didn't have any plan laid out for me if i ran into somebody that sounded better than me or sounded like they did a better show than me i would wrangle them down and say hey tell me everything you're doing how do you how do you sound like this why do you sound like this how are you editing where are you putting it blah blah and sometimes they would tell me and sometimes they wouldn't every bit of information that i could glean from somebody that i thought was doing better for me i would listen and then add it into my show and why did i keep doing it because i really liked the topic i was covering so whether it sucked or not i was still passionate enough about the topic to want to continue to cover there you go that's the secret people you gotta love what you're doing so a lot of people especially launched recently they're not doing this as their full-time job did you have a job when you were doing this do you have one now yeah so i still have a day job when i started i i had a job but soon after i launched the podcast so that would have been around 2004 i went into what's called forced retirement you were promoted to customer for someone yeah there you go that's right i was now within a 24-hour time span of my primary caregiver to my three very young daughters at the time my wife went to work full-time and that ended up turning into like a four-year jaunt and i both hated it and loved it i hated it because i wasn't the one making the decision to leave work and i loved it because how many dads do you know maybe it's a little bit now different nowadays but you know back then how many dads do you know that were home full-time taking care of their kids there were a lot of things that i experienced that a lot of the dads didn't get to experience see things happen for the first time or help them you know i learned how to do girl's hair and i learned how to do nail painting and all this other stuff that i never thought i would do because i'm there and what are you going to do to pass the time so i would work on the show when i could and then i would care for the girls and so that's you know the love and the hate there as far as today yeah still have a job it has nothing to do with the live fire world i'm the major accounts rep for a peterbilt dealer here in ohio peterbilt's like the big trucks you see on the road and i make sure that the two don't cross over each other because i like to do both and i'm good at both and oh by the way i really like to make all of the money that i can so since i can make money from my podcast and i can make money for my job and they don't cross over or impact each other i can do that as well so that's awesome yeah have your cake and eat it too why not have two cakes actually yeah there you go and eat off of both of them yes we're letting people in this show behind the scenes the crafting that we're talking about in this show is podcasting itself so when you consume podcasts i mean i assume that you listen to other podcasts what other podcasts do you listen to what catches your attention as far as what makes the podcast good if you want to cover that too as far as what i listen to i subscribe to all all of the barbecue and grilling podcast to see what else is happening out there and to see where everyone else is stacking up against me because i'm very competitive when it comes to the space i also do it to seek out potential new guests slash contributors to my show if somebody's really good i have a recurring guest every month now who has a competing or barbecue related podcast when i started listening to him i was like hey he's into some other things that i'm not he brings a fresh perspective on a lot of things we disagree on a lot of things we also agree on a lot of things he would be a great person to mix in with some of these other guys that i have on monthly for my embedded correspondence and he's you know worked with me for a number of months now so i'm not just trying to gauge where my show sits in the realm of other barbecue podcasts but i'm also looking for something that might bring value to my show and then in essence bring value to my listeners um other topics that i'll listen to podcast related are i love anything that has to do with mafia or kozinostra of course and sports slash business related podcast i'll subscribe to but you know a lot of my time is spent listening to other live fire shows what do you look for things that make a podcast unlistenable for me so it's going to be lackluster content coupled with poor audio that makes me unsubscribe or not subscribe if it's just to click in to see if i want to that will make me either unsub or or not sub very very quickly to me what makes a good podcast as we circle back to what makes me unsub or not sub content content is king as i told you before we started recording i will suffer through a technically poor podcast if the content outshines the deficiencies but for me that's far and few between but there are some out there as i had mentioned and sometimes i'm compelled enough to reach out to those folks and say hey i know you're new i've gone through these learning curves i want to help you because your content is so good but you sound like such [ __ ] let's fix that because that's easy you've got the hard part aced the contents good you know just like you and kate making you sound good was easy but you have the wherewithal and the expertise and the content to really keep people a subscribing and then coming back and listening so that's very important obviously as i mentioned audio quality is directly after content and again it's so easy to sound good these days and you don't have to be an audio wizard to do it right i got into this in 2006 as i was mentioning you know there was no one to lean on for assistance there was a lot of trial and error it was a lot of i sound really good this week until i found something else to do the following week and then i sounded better the following week those are like my two biggest things uh and they're kind of interrelated what makes me listen and what makes me not want to listen they're both tied together as a consumer of podcasts i'm curious i've certainly heard some interesting ad reads have you heard any interesting ad reads you'd like to share for my show it's when an advertising partner will allow me to write the copy because they get the shows comedy and sarcasm and they just want me to mention a couple bullet points or just important things but then they'll let me creatively write out copy that i can use on the show because in the barbecue world there are so many double entendres your head would spin and why not make good use of them while promoting a product or service it's fun it's exciting it's the internet it's not fcc regulated otherwise there's this podcast called going deep with chad and jt and they have really good reads with a company called manscape and so they're dropping lots of dong and ball references all over the place and if you're a perpetual 12 year old like me it's always funny no matter what the knitting and magic world i hate to say are not without their double entendres too if you don't think i've made ball jokes like you're sorely mistaken okay well i think we should take a break yes we'll take a quick break and when we come back we'll wrap up our second half and take a look at greg's hands stick around hey knitter spell listeners it's katie are you interested in a new knitting pattern that will help you knit with intent well then get ready because the self-love cowl has arrived and kits are available from uu yarns whether you're knitting for self-love abundant luck healing comfort joyous empowerment or even robust romance there's a colorway option for you go ahead and check out all of the options of this fun and interesting cowl that you can knit with intent to have a little magic worn around you at all times it also makes a great gift whether you're knitting one for yourself knitting one for a friend or simply looking to learn more you can do so by visiting lightfromlantern.com happy knitting magical makers i don't think a lot of people necessarily think of getting a palm reading i know there's a lot of things on the poem that people think are good or bad right there's nothing inherently negative in your palm you can use all the tools all the markings they are associated with your strengths your personality and things you can use in your life i think everyone would enjoy reading from you and dear listener if you too would like a fantastic experience that offers insight direction and clarity i highly suggest booking a session with my dear friend james divine and you can find more information at thedivinehand.com and we're back i want to know greg what kind of a woo-woo person aria like what what degree of woo might you say wu r on a scale of zero to a hundred i'm zero zero i don't think so witchy stuff and religion stuff i hate to say this life happens and then you die and many people seem to be afraid of that but i'm not we have very open discussions in my house and aside from the kids having endless nightmares everything's fine but uh it doesn't seem like life is without meaning otherwise why would be grilling delicious meats i believe that you get up every day when what you should be doing is being a good human treating people right being honest being loyal all the the virtues if you will and enjoy your days here i mean go to bed if you think at the end of the day no i regret doing this thing or that thing well tomorrow wake up maybe try and repair that or whatever you did don't do that again so you don't go to bed regretting stuff because you might not wake up the next day and then you've ended your life on regret nobody wants that you know i love this if i i had i saw this idea or i heard this idea from someone that if you need a religion or something to have you be not be an a-hole then you probably are a total a-hole something about like an atheist ethic which is kind of counter-cultural in a lot of ways since we're in a sort of christian culture there's something really beautiful about like live your life like this is it yeah instead of living your life like you can have some sort of redemption or redo it you know living your life on credit as though you can somehow get forgiven or something no what if you couldn't live your life on credit and you had to actually pay your debts every day if i came up and insulted you today well then tomorrow i gotta come up and apologize or do something to make amends because there is no credit the forgiveness i need doesn't come from some magical place it comes from me coming up to greg and saying i was in a really bad spot that was no excuse for me to insult you i apologize how can i make amends how can i make this better that's a super powerful epic i i would like to say for any of the fans that are down with religion if you're doing it well i guess what i would call for the right reasons um it's something you believe in you're passionate about it you subscribe to whatever nonsense is going on there fine if you're doing it because you're scared you're going to go to hell you're a dummy and you're not doing it for the right reasons you need to look into how you're living your life and be a better person i i'm all for believing in a cause or believing in in something if that's your deal but i think to be living in fear that's that's a little troubling for me for sure yeah i think there's a lot of uh witchy people that would totally agree with the power that mainstream religions have over us and one of the one of the main motivators that many of my witchy peers have of leaving mainstream religion especially christianity is that power and control and the lies and the sort of the things that don't line up with what it means to be a good person and yet like the lack of love and acceptance that exists in religion um and finding that there's a personal uh realization or personal discovery in meaning and in how life sort of works here's what the nuance that i want to ask you what about when i say woo-woo i want to know about intuition what is your take on that kind of thing regardless of the existence of a of a god or a higher power i think to me when i think about intuition i also examine it in a form of are you doing that because at the moment you think you're being intuitive is there a gained experience from the past that is now giving you that intuitive thought in your mind well i'm going to go left or these people coming up to me looked like they might be unsavory well maybe two months ago you got [ __ ] kicked out of downtown and they looked similar or there was a similar walk to them or they just back then you thought ah i better not do that you did it anyway so now you're not gonna make that same mistake i think just like cooking you're making changes on the fly you're lowering the temperature you're gonna pull the steak off um a little sooner than you did the last time so you don't overshoot on your internal temperatures these are all things you've learned and it seems intuitive now because it's all a learned process from past experience like an unconscious baked in thing that i might not notice yeah i see going back to like the podcast part um have you ever maybe had like whether it's from past experience or not a feeling i'm like a a guest or something where you're like oh i talked to the person and got them on but i kind of felt like i don't know about this person in regards to the interviewing i so i i prepare an outline but i don't really treat it as firm concrete um there's been plenty of times when i've started down an outline but the guest has answered a question and it makes me think of off-the-cuff follow-up questions and then that spawns a whole other line of questioning and maybe we never get back to the points on the original agenda and um i think active listening plays a really big part in how that interview is going to diverge from an outline as far as guests that i thought one thing or another i try and remain pretty impartial i'll get a lot of feedback from folks especially if it's a big name or you know i don't know what that means to anybody anymore these days but this past february like just last month i did an interview with the ceo of traeger grills jeremy anderson this is a publicly traded company it's got a valuation of three billion dollars the guy himself has enormous personal financial wealth like many hundreds of millions of dollars and he was actually the original founder of skull candy like earphones i don't know if you remember those before he bought into traeger so i thought the interview was going to be you know more of a dud than i thought was going to be a success i thought about canceling it a number of times leading up to the actual segment and i also thought that the guest was going to cancel last second i was planning for that i had a backstop guest because i knew this guy was like ah i'm just way too busy to sit down for this guy's stupid online show and have him grill me about nonsense and i was expecting you know hours leading into it that this guy was going to cancel much to my surprise i didn't cancel he doesn't cancel he shows up does two segments and aside from a few legal questions he answered everything that i asked him and many feel that this was one of the best interviews i've done today in 14 years of live show so it was a nice mix of background on the guest and how he got into business some promotion of the products and stuff probably one of the best interviews i'll definitely do this year you just never know yeah there are competitions barbecue competitions do people ever have their little lucky things i just see all those 10 by 10 tents i see everyone barbecuing outside at a barbecue competition and i'm just imagining that like so and so from louisiana has his lucky you know chicken foot or so-and-so has their like certain rub three shots to start it off or something yeah whatever their good luck charm or their type of mojo thing that people might do to try to win it's funny that you mentioned specifically the word mojo so there's a lady by the name of melissa cookston who is the pit master of a competition team called yaz who's delta q out of oh where are they at mississippi i think that sounds right and uh she's a barbecue hall of fame uh pit master she was inducted a handful of years ago she's the winningest woman on the competition circuit wow there's a competition in may every year called memphis in may and it's huge huge um she won it four years in a row wow cooking whole hawk and the first year of the four she came on my show for the first time and she was like this was on a tuesday and memphis in may was that weekend coming up and she won and then she came on the tuesday before the following year and that following weekend she want to get and we did it again for the third year and then all of a sudden she's like well i can't go into memphis in may without coming on your show the tuesday before because i just win every time i do it so she was convinced until the fifth year when she didn't win that part of her winning had nothing to do with cooking it had to do with showing up on the show on tuesday getting what she called the barbecue central show mojo and then carrying that over through the weekend where she would win 100 that was a real thing also a fake slash real thing is something that i put out there and i have done it for as long as the show's been going on which is the barbecue central show karma which means if you're a pit master there was a time when my show was really heavily competition focused because it was really popular all around that sense died off but it was all big barbecue show karma so a pit master would show up on a tuesday they would go compete on over the following weekend and then they would win now a lot of them would come on they would not win but i would always look for the ones that went on and then i would point it out top of the show that following week going oh by the way so and so showed up on this uh on the show tuesday they won competed over the weekend and they won barbecue central show karma it never doesn't work and it was a play it up you know the whole thing yeah but yeah and then as far as rituals i know for a fact that there's a large contingent of pit masters that show up at any kansas city barbecue society event and 11 o'clock before turning start on a sunday everybody gets together for the communal shot of liquor and sometimes it's five people and sometimes depending on how big the event it's 100 or 200 people but that's something that happens at every single competition there's a pit master named tuffy stone from cool smoke who's very well known on sundays he goes around and shakes every pit master's hand in every team and wishes them good luck before turnips start little rituals yeah this like could be a whole episode like cooking superstitions and uh competition superstition kind of a thing i love this what's your favorite thing about podcasting greg i think it ends up fulfilling a need or a passion i never knew i had i knew back in college that i really wanted to do something along these lines maybe i would have majored in communication and tried to get into terrestrial type radio and this is now allowing me to live out of some type of a fantasy that i didn't realize i had the capacity to do and i've gotten better at it and the show has gained some kind of you know popularity and it's recognized for doing what it does and you know that makes me feel good but you know in the end it's just about covering the industry that i've developed the passion for all the way back you know 16 17 years ago and try to do it better every time and it's such a enchanting form of storytelling you know like we said that there's so many topics that you can talk about it can be about anything and at this moment it's still rather uncensored and conglomerized although i see that that is turning but i think that's also part of the peel right it's like you you can do it totally on your own and if you had gone to college to do communication and everything you probably would have been like you know chained to the desk of like a crappy early morning radio show and can't ever see your kids you probably would have had less opportunity in the long run yeah than now even though it took you perhaps longer and you maybe had to go the the longer road but certainly more original right anyone can just go to college and go to communication do that for sure well the pandemic is winding down but there's still people who might be on the podcast train and after this episode maybe i want to start a podcast so what would be your single one piece of advice or right uh so i have five bullet points i would like to talk about because when people have asked me this before i've always felt like i wasn't giving a really good concise bit of info here so bear with me here and this will certainly help you along the decision-making process if you want to get into podcast or not so number one most important determine the topic that you are passionate about and then figure out how you can make that show repeatable and allow for broad content creation we talked about this you know towards the beginning of the show and by the way this is my podcast disclaimer for those looking to start one if you're gonna do a podcast because you think you're going to be making money at it right off the bat this is where you quit getting into the podcast game just stop now unless you're some kind of celebrity or you have a huge audience because you're some type of social influencer or whatever and you can bring a big audience right off the rip you're probably not going to be making money at this maybe ever but definitely not right off the bat which is why it's important to be able to do it on something that you are passionate about that should be the driver not the money if you're good that part the money part will come but it's certainly not guaranteed so that's number one number two determine and then stick to a release schedule this is maybe the biggest problem that i see after you get over the i'm gonna make a million dollars doing podcasting you are excited and ready and you got so much to say and you release five episodes a week well are you being realistic is the content that you're covering really allow for that type of content generation if it is then you got to do it make that decision right up front i've been doing it once a week for 16 years and i can do it so i stick to it and that's where you build the relationship with your audience your relationship is predicated on the audience saying okay they're going to do it once a week or they're going to do it twice a month and i know that twice a month the show is going to show up in my podcast feed and i can listen to it and that's where you're building this relationship nothing gets me unsubscribing quicker over a longer period of time is when somebody becomes a pod fade victim they were doing it once or twice a week then it goes to once a week then it goes to twice a month then once a month then maybe once a quarter and then all of a sudden they stop once you start being inconsistent with your release schedule i'm i'm out you don't care i don't care that's it so that's number two release schedule then stick to it number three get your gear invest a little money into some audio a gear that's going to give you a quality sound and not make listening to your show and audio hurdle number four learn at the very beginning to go and get over your ego and make the show listenable for the subscriber what does that mean edit edit edit edit when you think you're done editing your show wrong go back and edit more if you have an hour-long interview with somebody just a raw conversation do you really think that all 60 minutes are so good that nothing can be trimmed out i say wrong 20 to 30 minutes should be your target maybe 35 but better to have a show that ends and have the listener be like wow i can't believe it's oh versus ugh the show is still going and it will never end learn to edit it's great uh number five get a media host who is iab certified or at least compliant this gives you verifiable stats to give to a potential sponsor these numbers are not made up and they conform to the current set of criteria set forth by how a download is actually determined and or calculated and this isn't the wild west anymore when it comes to stats you just can't tell somebody hey i'm a joke it's 50 000 downloads a week now there's processes put in place where you can say here's my numbers i pay for these they comply with whatever the rule is so those are my five bullet points now other tips practice speaking when i'm in the car driving to work or on a trip or going to a volleyball tournament or whatever believe it or not you would pull up to me in a car here's this guy by himself talking who's he talking to i'm just talking out loud i'm practicing my speaking skills i'm trying to get better at the thing that is required for me to do a podcast which is speaking also try to get away from the sentence crutches like ums and oz or my current favorite that i hate on right now is ending a sentence with so like yeah i mean what the [ __ ] is that how do you end the sentence like that and it is going across the country perhaps the globe in epidemic type speed so when you feel yourself going for a crutch take a beat take two beats and find the words in your head to use correctly to complete the thought and as an added bonus as you become a more polished orator people will correlate your command of the english language and your level of smartness this is a real bonus for me because in real life i'm a big dummy but my speaking makes people think i'm more of an authority than i probably really am that's a win-win for me and lastly as i mentioned a little bit earlier listen to the audience if people are writing to you or hitting you up on social media and telling you things that they would like to hear you talk about or cover do that remember if you don't have an audience you will eventually have no audience although greg is completely zero on the woowoo scale i am going to look at his palms he's still curious oh yeah always so here's a photo of greg beautiful photo greg with his hands the length of your palm is rather long and your fingers are relatively short in comparison this is a classic example of the fire hand and it's very interesting to think of someone who has a who has the barbecue central podcast actually having fire hands the element of fire is representative of the idea of transformation and change people with fire hands tend to appreciate or be the purveyors of change and transformation the difference between change and transformation is important fire is actually about transformation rather than change so change is uh i i change the paint color on the wall transformation is i tear down the wall and make an open concept floor plan so the idea is transformation is important and when when transformation is not available fire-handed people sometimes resort to change but that can be a little frustrating the second element that's in your hands is air specifically your heart line on your hand this heart line is straight across the top of your hand and the separation between your headline and your lifeline this air quality is a pragmatism so it makes sense to me that you were zero on the woowoo scale the trust you have with someone needs to be there before you open up to them before you're gonna have a personal relationship so if i wanted to be friends with you i would have to show up on time be an honest person prove that those things are true and that would have to be there for a while before you would say all right jimbo come over for a beer so when we bring the elements of air intellect and the elements of fire together this is the combustion hand this is the hand of transformation of mindset a famous person with the with the combustion hand was the reverend martin luther king jr and if you think about what he was up to it was about changing mindset in your own way you are likely transforming mindset and that's what really turns you on or what your motivation may come from based on your hand shape the thoughts about that greg i think there's a lot of truths to what you were talking about as far as what i look for and somebody that i would let into my life what they have to exhibit or show me first before i'll start to buy in and i am a big believer in communication when you're talking about change versus transformation you know i can think of a number of different things right off the top of my head where as you had said it's you know the change is something that okay we change but it's cyclical it's keeping to come back and that's a cause of frustration and why aren't we transforming it um and in a means to get to a resolution so um you know i can think of that through work and personal life too um happening so i certainly agree with that and then um oddly enough uh i'm doing my own martin luther king thing right now with something that's going on in the barbecue and grilling world and uh you know i'm trying to make sure that people are seeing a particular situation you know from from all aspects not just the way one aspect is being pressed down by a bigger company so
how people can find out more about you greg the services you offer can people consult like do you offer a consulting service for people who are interested in doing their own podcast is this a thing that you do yeah if somebody wants to learn about it or they have a concept that they're looking to sound bored off of somebody that's talked to a whole bunch of people and i've talked to other folks that have nothing to do with barbecue related [ __ ] you know just from a conceptual um to technical things i need and then a what's called a coaching type of scenario too these are all things that i'm certainly open to doing but yeah all you have to do is shoot me an email greg greg at the bbq central show.com and i can tell you everything i offer and we can pick the best thing for you what about social media how can people follow the barbecue central show do you do a newsletter website all that fun stuff yeah website is the bbq central show.com you can also subscribe to the weekly newsletter right from the main page of the website that comes out once a week usually around noon on tuesdays just to give you an update on what's going to be happening later on during the live show between 9 to 11. it is a live show 9 to 11 p.m eastern there's a video feed there's an audio feed but it's also being recorded at the same time so the video platforms that i'll tell you about here in a second auto archive as soon as the feed ends so you can go back and re-watch the show if you just happen to be stumbling into it towards the end and then for the audio podcast hour one is released on wednesdays hour two is released on thursdays and then because the show is in such a long life at this point i have contracted a guy out of michigan who makes a best moments show for me it's called the best moments of the barbecue central show in 10 minutes or less so he goes in listens to the whole show and then we'll listen to an interview and go i'm going to pull out the best 10 minutes of that 18 or 20 minute interview just to wet the whistle if you will and then we always put a link in the show notes to take you back to the entire show so you can not only hear that entire interview but the other two or three guests and it's a great way for me to pull up older shows to get downloads but then to let a new listener in they get a quick introduction to what the show's like and how the flow goes and then they can go back and revisit old shows so um socially at bbq central show on instagram twitter tic toc snapchat video wise it's a slash bbq central show on facebook and twitch and it's slash rd like romeo delta rd rempe on youtube and it's not barbecue central show on youtube because youtube and i hate each other that's the way it is all right well before we go jim what's going on with you so many cool things happening in may i'm going to be in chicago for mother's day weekend come and see me you can book a reading with me in chicago i will be attending an event with the tarot lady teresa reed i am not presenting but i am attending in the north end in the uptown neighborhood of chicago so come and see theresa reed the tarot lady there if you're on my newsletter you will have known about this and you can subscribe to my newsletter on my website thedivinehand.com also in may i'll be in dallas texas for the international divination event and i will be doing studio 78 that is going to be a great time may 20th through 22nd in dallas texas check that out what about you katie what's happening with you uh so i have some new patterns coming out and some new classes that i'll have digitally available on my website so i'll go ahead and you can sign up for my newsletter as always at lightfromlantern.com or go ahead and follow me on the instagrams also light from lantern you're going to be in chicago in dallas do you eat meat oh yeah there you go recommendations i i eat meat all right if you're a steak guy there's a steak joint downtown called rpm steakhouse might change your life for the better and then you can go to a place in dallas called knife like the implement a k ife and john teasar is the owner slash chef there that place will definitely change your life for steak two steak places that will change my life yes i've been to both it's coming from a place of experience not just people telling me where to go i i hear you want to go all the time all right well thank you again greg for coming on it's been a pleasure and again thank you so much for just helping us get to where we are now and not sound like total [ __ ] so appreciate it yeah i'm happy to help and i'm glad you guys took the information and ran with it i mean for as good as the show sounded when it started it's tenfold better now and again it's nuanced stuff that people will appreciate or maybe they don't even realize they're appreciating but you're doing it so i know that they're appreciating i'm so glad you're on and everyone who's listening i hope you found this information helpful and that it inspires you if you decide to craft in the form of podcasting or youtubing or any other kind of media expression so thank you greg again for your generosity and for being here and everybody will see you next time on knit a spell bye-bye thanks for listening everybody and don't forget new episodes of knitter spell are conjured every wednesday learn more at knittespell.com and follow our instagram page at knittespell if you have a quick second to support the show feel free to drop us a review on itunes or share this with a friend jim and i appreciate your support and look forward to seeing you next week
